Lea's Perspective
Out of Body Experiences

Message Recorded January 5, 2003
by The Lightside - TheLightside.org

It's really hard to figure out how I should introduce Lea, but let's just say that she doesn't live here on Planet Earth with the rest of us. This gives her a very unique and interesting perspective on Biblical topics. If this whole concept of an extraterrestrial providing Biblical commentary seems strange to you, I'd strongly recommend clicking on the link below before you read this section so you can better understand who she is and where she's coming from:

An Introduction To Lea

This is part of a longer conversation. We join this conversation with the topic of OBEs:

Lea: So Jim, you have some questions?

Question: I was hoping to do a couple more editions of EARS from Lea's perspective.

Lea: What would you like to speak about?

Question: Two topics. The first one is out-of-body-experiences. If anybody else has any questions feel free to chime in.

Lea: Now are you asking, is it possible?

Question: That would be the first.

Lea: Yes it's a hundred percent possible as your Bible speaks of people having experiences while they are sleeping. They seem to go someplace else and see marvelous things. They hear people speaking to them and they can hear things going on around them. Yes, it is a hundred percent possible and it does happen.

Question: So when we dream, our spirits basically go on to somewhere else while our body is regenerating?

Lea: Well now there's a difference between dreams. A dream, well, I'll put it this way. A human's dreams mostly relate to what happens during the day, but an out-of-body-experience is usually a message or a help to the person. Or it is a gift of seeing into the future.

Question: And that could also be done during meditation too?

Lea: Yes it can be, but during meditation, you can also be interrupted by things going on around you. Most people do not get into a deep enough meditation to accomplish that.

Question: Is there a danger in doing it during meditation, can the other side step in and enter your body or do you harm?

Lea: Not if youíre a spiritual person. That's why we speak of being a balanced person. If you are unbalanced you can be interfered with more and often, but your balance is being one with the Creator. Not using drugs, not drinking, being kind to each other, being kind to the planet, being kind to the animals and everything that is here and wishing everything well.

Question: In one of Paul's letters in the Bible he references a possible out of body experience. In 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 he writes that he knows a guy who was caught up to the third heaven. That third heaven referring to somewhere you can go out of body. Is that indeed what that was?

Here's the passage I was talking about
- Jim
2 Corinthians 12: 2-4 (NIV)
I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know--God knows. And I know that this man--whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows--was caught up to paradise. He heard inexpressible things, things that man is not permitted to tell.

Lea: Well, with the mis-translations of the Bible, it is a distance that is from heaven. It's not a third heaven. God is in heaven. Then there is an area below heaven and then there is another area. In the second area from God is where the angels dwell. And then there is space and then there is your planet. So it has been interpreted as being the third heaven. But you can travel anyplace when you go out of body, but as I have and these people have heard before, you do not travel with a silver cord. Can you imagine if all these people are going out of body and everybody had a silver cord what would happen? Nobody would ever get back. I mean they would be all twisted up in, what do you call that, oh you discussed it the other night, Matrix, you know it would be all tangled up, mixed up against each other. It's just like angels do not have wings.

Question: A lot of people in the room have had experiences during dreams or visions where they go aboard ship. One thing I have noticed is no shadows. Is that another level like you were talking about with the third heaven and Earth, is that the level between there, aboard your ship?

Lea: The reasons for no shadow is the lighting that we have on board. It is the type of lighting that we use.

Question: Ok so on ship is basically the same level as on planet?

Lea: I have to say yes because we could enter into your atmosphere. We won't because of the size of the ship but we could enter into it as we can enter into outer space. But can we enter into God's space with our ship? No. Because the ship is a physical hard metallic you cannot enter God's space with that.

Question: Now people can go up to your ship both physically and out of body, right?

Lea: Right.

Question: How can we tell the difference?

Lea: Well one thing, stop and look at yourself. If you donít see your body, then you are astrally projecting there. And also another way is check your bed when you come back at night. When you wake up in the morning, check your bed. If it is absolutely ice cold you went physically.

Question: And if we go to the ship out of body, can you guys see us?

Lea: Yes we can.

Question: What do we look like?

Lea: I would have to say a more, like a light being although not quite as bright, but yes you have an outline of a form.

Question: What percentage of the time? Is it completely different for everybody or is there like ten percent of the time you go physically, ninety percent you go astrally or out of body? Or does it completely depend on the person?

(Lea goes to the computer to check on the figures so she gets the answer correct.)

Question: How often do I go spiritually?

Lea: Fifty-three percent of the time you go spiritually.

Question: So forty-seven physically. What are the reasons, some of the basic reasons, why you would go physically and some of the basic reasons why you would go astrally?

Lea: It is much harder to go physically because your body needs rest. And if you go physically your body will become tired and that is why a lot of times when you wake up in the morning, you are very, very tired even though you felt that you slept for eight hours. When you go astrally, your body has a chance to rest and your mind has a chance to rest, or it assumes it is resting. And it is just your soul that does the work. And a lot of times you body is needed cause you must complete a physical action, such as if you must be trained physically to do a job in the future or if you must speak to a group of people perhaps on board a ship or if you need, shall we say, present the human psyche to alien so that they can understand the human process of thinking. Laughing, feeling joy, feeling sadness. Such as a simple action of having a tear in an eye, not only when you're sad but when you're laughing. Sometimes it is hard for the aliens to understand the process and they almost have to see it to believe it.

Question: So even though out-of-body experiences are real and they seem kind of natural from what you say the physical condition is almost more fascinating.

Lea: To us as trying to understand your species, yes.

Q: I have a general question along those lines. Is it pretty much down the middle for all of us that half physically and half astrally? Do you get my round about, I don't know - education and everything.

Lea: No, and it's not, let's say for weeks you might go physically. For weeks at a time. And then maybe for a while you go astrally. So it's not like you go once physically and once astrally. But it can be balance out to pretty close to fifty-fifty.

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